Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/17/1994 03:00 PM House L&C

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  HB 509 - INCREASE MOTOR FUEL TAX                                             
                                                                               
  Number 425                                                                   
                                                                               
  BRUCE CAMPBELL, Commissioner, Department of Transportation,                  
  testified in support HB 509.  He commented that Mr.                          
  Stansby's figures of $82 million as the amount of revenue                    
  generated by passage of HB 509 is different than the $109                    
  million figure his agency shows.                                             
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL stated that the funds generated by HB
  509 are not dedicated funds.  However, he was supportive of                  
  the language the administration calls "pseudo dedicated                      
  funds" that states that the proceeds of the tax shall be                     
  deposited in a special highway fuel tax account within the                   
  general fund.  Commissioner Campbell stated that this type                   
  of language is found in three or four other funds he's                       
  familiar with and the legislature has only appropriated out                  
  of these accounts for the particular purpose they were set                   
  up for.                                                                      
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL stated that this type of set-up would                  
  not be truly a dedicated fund in a constitutional sense; at                  
  least it would be in a practical sense.  The administration                  
  felt this scenario could work and would save money by not                    
  having to get a constitutional amendment.                                    
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL added that he believes that a major                    
  raise in the fuel tax is important because the revenue                       
  generated would nearly fund the budget of the Department of                  
  Highways.                                                                    
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL explained to the committee that the                    
  State of Alaska is considered a recipient state; the state                   
  receives $600.00 for every dollar the state pays in federal                  
  fuel and excise taxes.  He added that Alaska is the highest                  
  state in the union in the disproportionate ratio.  The donor                 
  states are joining together to change the way the federal                    
  monies are proportioned.  Alaska would lose in this                          
  scenario.  Commissioner Campbell noted that one of the                       
  things he hears during meetings with other transportation                    
  and highway officials is that Alaska is the biggest                          
  recipient of federal aid and has one of the lowest gas                       
  taxes.                                                                       
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL concluded by saying that this is going                 
  to be an issue our congressional delegation will have to                     
  deal with.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 496                                                                   
                                                                               
  RESA JERREL, Lobbyist, National Federation of Independent                    
  Business, testified against HB 509.  She reiterated her                      
  earlier testimony regarding HB 413 and the NFIB's position                   
  that they want the state government spending under control                   
  before any taxes are passed.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 500                                                                   
                                                                               
  PAUL DICK, Department of Revenue, testified that the fiscal                  
  note the Department of Revenue offered was $82.2 million,                    
  using the current level of consumption.                                      
                                                                               
  Number 521                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. PORTER asked if the department looked back to 1983 when                 
  the last tax increase took place to see what happened.                       
                                                                               
  MR. DICK responded that he did not.                                          
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON asked what the average Alaskan's cost                        
  increase would be if HB 509 passed.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 545                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. MULDER asked if Mr. Dick had any idea why there was a                   
  discrepancy between figures of the Departments of                            
  Transportation and Revenue.  He also asked what the total                    
  revenue would be if the tax were doubled and not tripled.                    
                                                                               
  Number 550                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DICK replied that he had not had a chance to look at                     
  DOT's figures, but would get together with them to figure                    
  out the differences.  Mr. Dick stated that doubling the                      
  current tax rate would result in revenues of approximately                   
  $40 million.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 556                                                                   
                                                                               
  MARK HICKEY, Valdez Creek Mine, testified against HB 509.                    
  Mr. Hickey stated that the mine is located 70 miles on the                   
  Denali Highway about 70 miles east of Cantwell.  He stated                   
  that four years ago they reached an agreement with the                       
  Department of Transportation to share the cost of winter                     
  maintenance of the road.                                                     
                                                                               
  MR. HICKEY stated that the mine is not opposed to a doubling                 
  of the tax, but not a triple increase.  They would also like                 
  to see the tax be dedicated to highway maintenance.                          
                                                                               
  MR. HICKEY noted a side effect of the proposal that is                       
  troubling for the mine and that is called the off-highway                    
  tax.  Currently Alaskans pay an off-highway tax of eight                     
  cents per gallon and receive a rebate of six cents.  He said                 
  HB 509 eliminates the rebate and actually raises the off-                    
  highway tax to 17 cents.  This would be a 3% increase in the                 
  cost of doing business for the mine.                                         
                                                                               
  MR. HICKEY proposed a solution that would eliminate the                      
  increased tax on off-highway usage.                                          
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-26, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON stated that he was leaning towards                           
  supporting the increased gas tax, but not as high as the                     
  administration is asking for.  He added that he liked the                    
  language in the bill that doesn't dedicate the funds but                     
  strongly favors appropriation towards highway facilities.                    
                                                                               
  Number 061                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. PORTER declared a conflict of interest due to the fact                  
  that he ran a company that provided security for the mine                    
  Mr. Hickey is representing and is still a consultant for                     
  that company.                                                                
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON stated that the committee recognizes that                    
  and does not believe it is in conflict.                                      
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON asked for comments from the committee                        
  regarding passage of HB 509.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 075                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. MULDER stated that his constituents want the funds to                   
  be dedicated to highway maintenance and not to go into the                   
  general fund.  He added that he could live with the proposal                 
  of an increase to 17 cents as long as it was dedicated.                      
                                                                               
  Number 113                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. WILLIAMS stated he didn't have any comment at this                      
  time.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 116                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. SITTON stated that he did not want to see any tax                       
  measures until the budget situation was figured out.                         
                                                                               
  Number 120                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. PORTER stated that he thinks it's appropriated to move                  
  these bills in order to give the Finance Committee all the                   
  tools required to make their decisions.                                      
                                                                               
  Number 138                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON stated that he believes the legislature will                 
  make some significant reductions in the budget this year and                 
  he believes the tax bills should go forward to give the                      
  legislature all the tools necessary.  However, he does not                   
  want to see the gas tax be tripled as this bill calls for.                   
                                                                               
  Number 179                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. MULDER moved Amendment 1 to HB 509 to reflect a 17 cent                 
  increase as opposed to a 25 cent increase.  No objections                    
  were heard; it was so ordered.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 198                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. SITTON moved Amendment 2 to HB 509 on page 2, line 21,                  
  adding a new section increasing the refund on the tax for                    
  non-highway use.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 220                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. PORTER moved CSHB 509(L&C) with adjusted fiscal note                    
  and individual recommendations.  No objections were heard;                   
  it was so ordered.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 230                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON adjourned the meeting at 4:52 p.m.                           

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